Grab-and-Go or Lower-and-Look?

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Grab-and-Go or Lower-and-Look?

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The idea of grab-and-go scope and mount is often a small scope with a light weight alt-azimuth mount to grab and start observation at the drop of a hat when the seeing is good and time is limited. The best scope is the one that is used most often as the saying goes.

But it does not always have to mean a smallish scope and light mount. If you have a balcony, you can bolt a mount into the wall and leave it there permanently and just add the scope when seeing is good. [Timatworksg is working on one].

Because the mount is permanent, chances are that it can take a higher payload and hence, a larger scope. Even in light polluted Singapore, a bigger scope is always better than a smaller scope to show more detail. It is a myth that a smaller scope is more suitable for light polluted areas than a larger scope. The only issue is that a larger scope is indeed more affected by atmospheric turbulence than a smaller scope.

My set up of grab-and-go is more like lower-and-look. I am fortunate to have a car porch terrace which is located below my bedroom balcony. I have just finished setting up my home-made pier mount with a CG5 head [thanks Swimaniac] and a Orion 130mm ST [short tube] Newtonian on my terrace.

As I only paid US$99-00 for the Orion scope during their sale last July and which was brought back FOC through a friend, I am leaving the whole thing permanently outdoors and can risk fungus build up on the mirrors of the scope if my protection method does not work.

Based on my research, I cover scope and mount with a trash bag, then a Mylar sheet,then a canvas sheet. I stick a small bag of silica gel under the scope tube cover to absorb moisture and a box of dehumidifier under all those sheets of cover.

I believe it should work to keep the scope and mount dry.

To access the terrace, I need to lower myself with the aid of a rope from my balcony and start my observation. Hence, lower-and-look. :mryellow:

Actually I will also set up a black screen on the terrace for privacy and to block off the street lights. The screen is attached to aluminium poles which are inserted into tube holders permanently bolted to the terrace wall.

It takes about 5 minutes to start my obs.

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Post by guangwei »

nice, you are creative :)
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Post by VinSnr »

I like your pier and how you bolt the mount onto the pier.

If I have a roof terrace one day, please come and help me to make this pier
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Post by 10,000rpm »

Sure VinSnr!

It works great cos I can level the mount by adjusting the plate bolts and I can easily adapt the top plate for different mount heads.

Thanks Guangwei for the compliments.
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10,000rpm wrote:Sure VinSnr!

It works great cos I can level the mount by adjusting the plate bolts and I can easily adapt the top plate for different mount heads.

Thanks Guangwei for the compliments.
Yes, I can see the good thoughts that went into the design of this pier.

Good job there.
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Post by timatworksg »

It makes his house look like something of a black-ops!! haha! Lower and look!!
Happen to past by and there he was up on the terrace roof fixing the CG5! Glad it worked out well 10,000rpm!! Would be interesting now to see how a scope will take the elements of SG! Hope to hear some feedback on this which could help in maintenance! All you need now are some chairs, a small table, beer and friends...haha! Just don't get drunk and fall off!!
Anyways, GREAT job on the pier!

As 10,000rpm has mentioned, I am working on a balcony wall window mount. Design is coming to view and it will be bolted to the wall with a short pier. Just need to determine the height of the pier+half pier+Vixen Gp mount so that the counterweight doesnt hit the window sill. Too high and I need to stretch my neck,..though a diagonal will solve this...lol! Yes it has the potential to take a heavier payload, extra counterweights and stability with no fear of vibrations! All I need to do then is to be able to 'SHOOT' the blooming lamp from the walkway off!! arrrgh!!
Considered bolting a pier into the planter well,...but don't want to make any holes there for fear of internal leaks as well as long term issues. It would allow my scope to point out more but run into an issue with it being sticking out too much allowing potential questions of possible 'killer litter' or being a 'cheeko man peering somewhere'! I could check to see if it's allowable, but decided not to for the sake of raising issues with the Town Council. Besides, some rough calculations and my scope will poke out but still within my planter box boundary, give me extra view upwards and still allow me to be comfortable standing. My balcony faces a great view of East to South. plus with a pier I can be more permanently aligned mount-wise. Added ideas were an all in one DIY hub so I can plug everything in without wires all over the floor...hmmm!

Agree with 10,000rpm that a bigger scope shows more detail in a light polluted place+cloudy skies of SG. Even on a hazy night I can still catch a visual though not sharp compared to a clear night. I remembered good nights with my 5" Mak!
My wife never complained about how much time, effort & money I spent on my Astronomy hobby!................suddenly I met her!!!
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