Nexstar 8 SE vs Meade LX80

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Re: Nexstar 8 SE vs Meade LX80

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(1) Basically I read about how telescopes work and it seemed that a large aperture is the main requirement, followed by focal length / focal ratio arguments.

Not a good approach. Better is research what you enjoy looking at and/or photographing most, what kind of skies you will be mainly under, how motivated/serious you think you will be in this hobby, THEN select the best aperture size, focal ratio to fit those preferences.

(2) But as I read through articles on this forum for the usage of Orion XT8 and other telescopes I am now wondering if I should go for them first before Nexstar.

Same reply as in (1). Answer those questions to the best of your ability and you can come to a conclusion whether XT8 or other scope will be suitable for your next upgrade.

(3) I guess, the only way is to keep reading and asking / attending some stargazing sessions till I understand the basics a bit more better.

Totally agree. Try books like Backyard Astronomer's Guide and Star Ware. More efficient use of research time reading info already gathering in one book than hunting for bits and pieces of info all over the net.

(4) - Do you intend to use this 8" mainly at home or places very nearby?
Yes I stay across bedok reservoir, so around my home and probably some times at ecp.


If I remember correctly, the Bedok Reservoir area does not have many nearby shelter. Something to take note of and make contingency plans for. In the event of a sudden downpour, you may not be able to carry the whole 8SE setup to the nearest road to hail a cab.

(5) - Do you enjoy learning and doing collimation of a SCT? (not every difficult especially with Bob Knobs 3rd-party accessory)
I enjoy doing the focus / alignment on my beginer one (makes me feel a tad bit nerdy), never tried it on SCT , so not sure of that. But from what I have read, it can be a frustrating task.


With proper knowledge and tools, it need not be a frustrating task - e.g. basic understanding of star testing, bob knobs for SCT, laser collimators for Newt/Dobs. Newtonians requires most steps in the collimation and SCTs lesser.

(6) - Do you have private transport?
No mostly cab.


This can be very costly in the mid to long term. The money saved from not needing to do so can buy some good accessories or perhaps even another scope. Best is if you have friend who has a vehicle and can share you interest and staying around your area. Else, do consider something more portable and take public transport or walk to your ob spot.

(7)- Do you have a good view of the sky near your house?
I stay opposite bedok reservoir so thats where i usually go


If you have a good view from within your house, you will be able to make use of a bulky 8SE more and thus can justify better upgrading to it and occasionally bringing it out for major events.

(8) - What is your rough budget and have you considered other scope design options like a Maksutov and Dobsonian reflectors that may give you better performance on the same budget?
I am ok upto 2-2.5k for a computerised telescope, I recently read more on OrionXT8i and wondering if its easier to transport? I am very open at the moment, Nex star 8se or Lx90 (80) seemed like good scopes to compare against so I started looking at them and now catching more info around other scopes.


Portability wise, dobsonians generally are most bulky. But if you have budget, there are special dobs designed for portability in mind. Throwing another question here. Do you really need a computerised mount since you are not really into astrophotography yet? If not, the savings from a getting a cheaper non-computerised mount can be used to find a bigger aperture scope or buy better accessories to enjoy the full potential of the scope. But 2 to 2.5k is also a decent budget for used scopes so do continue to monitor the astro forums buy sell section here and in CloudyNights and Astromart.

(9)- Do you mind buying used scopes?
Nope, infact now thinking if I should go for a beginner level 8 inch used scope before i reach to nexstar level.


8 inch is generally not considered as a beginner scope. :) Perhaps can consider something slightly smaller and more portable and upgrade to a bigger scope for the 3rd purchase. Upgrading a 3/4 inch refractor or 5/6 inch Mak/SCT/Newt beginner scope, you will already see tremendous improvement compared to your 60mm first scope.

But if you think you are really serious about this hobby and willing to compromise of the disadvantages of a bigger scope, there is no major problem investing in a 8-inch SCT and stick with it for a long time and thus getting a lot of value back for its price in the long run.

(10) - Have you attended a few star parties and look through different scopes?
Nope but I am planing to do so. I wasn't sure of where to go earlier but now through this forum i think it will be a lot easier.


Great! A few of our newcomers acquired C8s in the past few weeks. You should come and join us sometime and have a good look through them and talk to the owners about their experiences of using one. :)
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Re: Nexstar 8 SE vs Meade LX80

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Thanks i checked it out, its quite good but i think i will wait till i get a but more experience before i buy a meade lx series. Nonetheless thanks for the tip.
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Thanks Gary, these suggestions do make good sense to me. As for my interest , i want to see deep space objects like nebula and other galaxies, hence my focus was on larger aperture and bigger focal length to have more clarity and maginification. but i take note of your suggestionand and will start with stargazing sessions to understand my needs better.
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khurram wrote:Thanks Gary, these suggestions do make good sense to me. As for my interest , i want to see deep space objects like nebula and other galaxies, hence my focus was on larger aperture and bigger focal length to have more clarity and maginification. but i take note of your suggestionand and will start with stargazing sessions to understand my needs better.
Hi Khurram. In Singapore, you can still see some DSOs no doubt (esp the brighter ones) but the view is not satisfying. So do consider joining some of the trips to darker skies in Malaysia with your future scope.
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Hi Khurram, welcome to the forum.

Wish to add that you should consider joining some sidewalk session At least you would be getting some hands on and views of what you can see in singapore.

Do noted that the larger the aperture. The heavlier the scope gets.
Weight could be real turn off in the hobby.
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i spent saturday afternoon packing two mounts and two scopes. then set up in sedili. then pack up again yesterday 4 a.m. then carry everything back upstairs yesterday 6 p.m.

my arms hurt like hell. :-P

total probably 180lb of gear.
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@Orly - Haha. More motivation for you to work harder and move to a landed property soon and roll off your stuff to the living room at ground level straight from your car boot. :)
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just as soon as i win in the lottery :mrgreen:
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