i used a free mac at Tan Tock Seng while accomopanying a relative to see the doctor. I don't like the feel of some of the apps and particularly miss the scroll, the tabbed task bar...
But just now spent 50 min watching the Macworld streamed via Quicktime (skipped the software parts ) .
I must say the guy is really charismatic and the Ipod really did very well looking at his sales and revenue. I don't think any of the competitors are remotely close to his products in terms of sales. the ipods may not be the most advanced nor most featured packed but somehow he manages to be in tune with what people want and focus on them only.
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there is a thing called dock.. and there are hot keys.. like f9 will show all ur open windows, f10 will jump from one app to another.. f11 will show ur desktop.. f12 shows the dashboard...Airconvent wrote:i used a free mac at Tan Tock Seng while accomopanying a relative to see the doctor. I don't like the feel of some of the apps and particularly miss the scroll, the tabbed task bar...
i guess theres a lot of functionality in mac but only the mass don't know about it.. thus leading them to think "ohh mac is so difficult to use"...
but comparing a PC to a mac... before we had a mac we were using a PC which crashed endlessly and needed repairs forever! after five years we mustve spent more money than buying a new one.. so we made the switch to apple.. and guess what.. my first ibook (256mb ram, 10gig HD) bought in 2001 still runs today... it might be dimunitive in value compared to whats in the market now.. but it still definitely works!!Tachyon wrote:Too expensive... gets outdated after 3-5 yrs... if I get a premium APO, will hold value for at least 5 years! :-p
we also have a G3 Mac bought second hand in 2003 and it still works now!! it even runs panther!!
nwayz jz my blah on macs.. btw i got good discounts with Apple!!
I bought my Powerbook few years back for around $4,000 and used it less than 10 times. Reason? Well, it's not 100% compatible with everything else I've got at home and in office. I once did a nice presentation in Microsoft Office using OSX and when I tried to show it using my Windows version, the fonts went beserk as the font set in Windows is slightly different from OSX.
I struggled with my Powerbook for a few months and finally gave up! Somehow it is too 'simple' - a one-button mouse always leaves me wondering how to proceed next to do what I want to do. Also, I suspect the reason why Mac programs do not crash as often is because the software development process for Macs are so tightly regulated. Any company can produce a Windows software, so some rouge ones tends to show up that crashes with another program. That gives Windows programs more flexibility and variety and I prefer that. I grew up with command-line DOS so maybe I am a bit biased...
However, I do like the 'look' of my powerbook! Even now, it sits there as a showpiece so that my friends can 'wow' at it. There's no doubt that Apple produces excellent-looking products!
I struggled with my Powerbook for a few months and finally gave up! Somehow it is too 'simple' - a one-button mouse always leaves me wondering how to proceed next to do what I want to do. Also, I suspect the reason why Mac programs do not crash as often is because the software development process for Macs are so tightly regulated. Any company can produce a Windows software, so some rouge ones tends to show up that crashes with another program. That gives Windows programs more flexibility and variety and I prefer that. I grew up with command-line DOS so maybe I am a bit biased...

However, I do like the 'look' of my powerbook! Even now, it sits there as a showpiece so that my friends can 'wow' at it. There's no doubt that Apple produces excellent-looking products!
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Anyway, From my experience, I found pre-Windows 2000 OS is quite hardware dependence... Some will run very stable and had no problem at all on some PC, but on other PC, it'll keep giving problem.
But IMHO, after Windows 2000, it is not so bad... for me, I'm using Windows 2000 Pro and it is very stable and had no problem for years.
By the way, Windows OS may not be as user friendly and may not be as stable as Mac, but remember it not easy for an OS to support so many hardwares and devices from various manufacturer... Mac OS basically only surpport Mac hardware, so it is no surprise to me that Mac is much stable than Windows OS.
Have a nice day.
Hmm... talking about notebook stability and survivability... my first notebook (PII 400MHz, 160MB RAM, Windows 2000 Pro) that I brought in 1998/1999 (can't remember clearly) is still using it daily till now and no problem at all after a major hardware problem during it first year... ok, the condition of the notebook is like sh*t (notebook dropped before, part of the casing is broken, so LCD can't close properly), but it is still runing perfectly...but comparing a PC to a mac... before we had a mac we were using a PC which crashed endlessly and needed repairs forever! after five years we mustve spent more money than buying a new one.. so we made the switch to apple.. and guess what.. my first ibook (256mb ram, 10gig HD) bought in 2001 still runs today... it might be dimunitive in value compared to whats in the market now.. but it still definitely works!!



Anyway, From my experience, I found pre-Windows 2000 OS is quite hardware dependence... Some will run very stable and had no problem at all on some PC, but on other PC, it'll keep giving problem.
But IMHO, after Windows 2000, it is not so bad... for me, I'm using Windows 2000 Pro and it is very stable and had no problem for years.
By the way, Windows OS may not be as user friendly and may not be as stable as Mac, but remember it not easy for an OS to support so many hardwares and devices from various manufacturer... Mac OS basically only surpport Mac hardware, so it is no surprise to me that Mac is much stable than Windows OS.
Have a nice day.
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I'm a self confessed Mac-addict. but I have to say this ....
I've been using PCs for years (even now at work) ... and they have not crashed on me yet ... My colleagues' comps have crashed, my father's and brother's PC have both crashed before ....
I think it's more the user. PC users tend to install alot of "junk" on the computer and install weird drivers which lead to instability ....
And I agree with what Weixing says, Windows has to deal with a whole lot more hardware than mac - on top of that, it has to deal with different groups of users .. ranging from aunties to business professionals to architects and the like ...
Although the Mac is starting to take on a larger group and range of users they are still far from the variety of PC/Win users ... =)
I guess at the end of the day, it's like what Tachyon said: "People who are too zealous lose out in the end because they are often blind to the advantages of other products and miss out on the benefits other offerings can bring."
It's all about keeping the mind open. Just like when the Mac was created, it was because someone was open minded enough to realise that something other than Windows could be realised and stepped out of the paradigm.
I still love the mac. =)
I've been using PCs for years (even now at work) ... and they have not crashed on me yet ... My colleagues' comps have crashed, my father's and brother's PC have both crashed before ....
I think it's more the user. PC users tend to install alot of "junk" on the computer and install weird drivers which lead to instability ....
And I agree with what Weixing says, Windows has to deal with a whole lot more hardware than mac - on top of that, it has to deal with different groups of users .. ranging from aunties to business professionals to architects and the like ...
Although the Mac is starting to take on a larger group and range of users they are still far from the variety of PC/Win users ... =)
I guess at the end of the day, it's like what Tachyon said: "People who are too zealous lose out in the end because they are often blind to the advantages of other products and miss out on the benefits other offerings can bring."
It's all about keeping the mind open. Just like when the Mac was created, it was because someone was open minded enough to realise that something other than Windows could be realised and stepped out of the paradigm.
I still love the mac. =)
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