Apple Mac computer changing their processor

Post by **zong** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:08 am

Actually, Mac has planned for this switch for years already. My techmails tell me so. As Apple announced the switch, they also showed a presentation, and revealed that this presentation is run on the Mac OS X, BUT on an Intel Platform. OS X was all along developed on intel before porting to PowerPC, so you can imagine how long ago they started this idea already. They figured that the PowerPC wasn't progressing as they had wished to, and therefore made the switch. I'd love to see the switch, I like Mac but i don't have the $$ to spend just for an ibook or a G4 for fun. I'd love to see them utilising the maximum quality of the video cards available for the PCs (and pray hard it will not lag :? )..

qu1xs1lv3r · Post by **qu1xs1lv3r** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:00 pm

actually a powerbook g4 costs jz as much as ur high end HP laptop... my flatmate made the switch to mac 2months ago... although she jz bought the ibook... it looks so much better than her HP laptop... and weigh less!!!

i myself have had a g3 ibook... and now a g4 powerbook... i wana get the imac g5!

Tachyon · Post by **Tachyon** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:27 pm

I know how you feel. Somehow buying a Mac is different from any other computers because not only the OS and interface is cool, the microprocessor is different. I like to feel that deep inside my Titanium notebook there's a RISC 'server' processor running. The experience is refreshing from the usual Intel/Microsoft combinations.

Alas, economics and business sense rules - and thus we have lost some of the uniqueness of owning a Mac. Before the switch, I used my Mac about 30% of the time, and my Intel machines for the rest of the 70%. After the switch, I have transferred my data to Intel only, since there is no more future for PowerPCs and Intel/OSX does not appeal to me as much.

What a sad ending for such a unique product!

Post by **zong** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:35 pm

I don't agree on that it's an ending. Rather, I think of it as a beginning, a rebirth of something already very great. The stability of Mac OS has been much praised. Stability of the OS lies within the OS itself, and less often in the hardware. I think making the switch is just so that Mac can get more popular and gain a share from Bill's pockets. We should look forward to getting the "New Mac" from stores for our PCs soon! And by then, how i very wish to (and will) say, "Goodbye Windows, Hello Mac!"

A 5 YeaR Old · Post by **A 5 YeaR Old** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:46 pm

Jingguo wrote:i just read that Apple is changing their Mac computer's proccessor chip from AMD to Intel. kinda shock 4 me.

huh? are you sure Apple used AMDs?

Post by **Airconvent** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:56 am

Tachyon wrote:I know how you feel. Somehow buying a Mac is different from any other computers because not only the OS and interface is cool, the microprocessor is different. I like to feel that deep inside my Titanium notebook there's a RISC 'server' processor running. The experience is refreshing from the usual Intel/Microsoft combinations.

Alas, economics and business sense rules - and thus we have lost some of the uniqueness of owning a Mac. Before the switch, I used my Mac about 30% of the time, and my Intel machines for the rest of the 70%. After the switch, I have transferred my data to Intel only, since there is no more future for PowerPCs and Intel/OSX does not appeal to me as much.

What a sad ending for such a unique product!

what differentiates an apple from the others is its unique packaging and OS. no one really cares what is inside the box as long as its stable and rock solid in real world applications. i know people buy apples because the OS rocks or the computer is cute but i have NEVER come across anyone buying it because it has a power pc inside....so going over to intel should not have effect on apple. the only people who will be affected will be intel haters.. but buy porting the os to a very accessible hardware platform, its going to be next to impossible for steve to keep the hackers out. once a working cracked generic pc intel version is out, there is no way apple can ever recall the product or revert back to power pc...

Post by **weixing** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:40 am

Hi,

what differentiates an apple from the others is its unique packaging and OS. no one really cares what is inside the box as long as its stable and rock solid in real world applications. i know people buy apples because the OS rocks or the computer is cute but i have NEVER come across anyone buying it because it has a power pc inside....so going over to intel should not have effect on apple. the only people who will be affected will be intel haters.. but buy porting the os to a very accessible hardware platform, its going to be next to impossible for steve to keep the hackers out. once a working cracked generic pc intel version is out, there is no way apple can ever recall the product or revert back to power pc...

I think the problem is not that the PowerPC processors itself, but rather IBM future plan.

It seem that IBM is getting out of personal computing business. I think they know that Windows is still dominating the PC OS world and as long as that happen, their PowerPC don't stand a chance.

So IBM sold his personal computing division and it is not surprise to see that IBM is not willing to design a processor base on a small amount of chip that apple required.

Anyway, if you want PowerPC back into your home, get a PlayStation 3 or the XBox 360 when they are out.

Have a nice day.

PS: See below in one article.. very interesting.. ha ha ha

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It was the worst of times for Microsoft. They've had to buy Power Macintosh G5s from Apple, modify them, and ship them out as Xbox 360 development systems.

It was the best of times for Apple. They've been selling Power Mac G5s to Microsoft, of all people, and Microsoft has become one of their larger customers.

It was the worst of times for Intel. They've been selling CPUs to Microsoft for the original Xbox, which is going to practically vanish into sales oblivion once the Xbox 360 ships in November.

Tachyon · Post by **Tachyon** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:33 pm

Airconvent wrote:no one really cares what is inside the box as long as its stable and rock solid in real world applications. i know people buy apples because the OS rocks or the computer is cute but i have NEVER come across anyone buying it because it has a power pc inside....

Well, I do! So now you have one nut case. Heh...

Granted that most people that Apple was targeting at wouldn't care less, since they are the 'novice' and "mum and dad" users. Given the huge difference between the number of applications in Windows platform vs OSX platform, the logical choice is to invest in the Intel/Windows platform rather than Intel/OSX. Furthermore, Apple is working very hard to make sure that OSX cannot run on other Intel machines, only Apple Intel ones.

As to the stability of OSX, well, it's inherent in most Unix-based aplications. I'm currently using Fedora and do not see any difference between that and OSX, and Fedora is free (for now)!

I guess I'm brought up in the generation where we were trained to look beyond the interface to the elegance, philosophy and efficiency of the machines inside. Anyone remember the revolutionary NeXT machines from Steve Jobs?

Cheers!

Post by **zong** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:38 am

Wha Tach, you're old

I never heard no NeXT machines before.. haha :k-lol:

Post by **Airconvent** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:13 pm

zong wrote:Wha Tach, you're old I never heard no NeXT machines before.. haha :k-lol:

NeXT were these really cool PCs that Steve Job introduced in his new company after he was ousted from Apple. I heard the graphics were so solid that images did not jerk as you drag objects around the screen...

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