10% discount off Televue APO refractors!

[mrngbss]

Are they coming out with new ones? Ok, who's buying the TV APOs.

[VinSnr]

Are they coming out with new ones? Ok, who's buying the TV APOs.

Still expensive la. There are so many better and less expensive option from WO and Stellarvue.

Somemore their APO still come with single crayford and dull cell rings. No baffles somemore. In the past before WO and Stellarvue, they are pretty good because they are far more affordable than AP. In today's context, I don't see any value in their refractors. They should just do eyepieces.

[acc]

Ya the TV85 and its siblings are like getting obsolete... E.g. in the past people go ga-ga over the buttery smooth rack-n-pinion focusers on TV scopes but now, dual-speed focusers on scopes costing much much less perform better.

[VinSnr]

Ya the TV85 and its siblings are like getting obsolete... E.g. in the past people go ga-ga over the buttery smooth rack-n-pinion focusers on TV scopes but now, dual-speed focusers on scopes costing much much less perform better.

TV scopes need to move with times. Either they bring up their mechanical (better focuser, nicer design, better features, etc) or they lower their prices. Look at their NP-127is which sells for like $6985! And only a 2.4" focuser. What the heck....could have use much less money to buy a TEC 140 with a Feathertouch 4" focuser ($5000)!

They better wake up from their American dream,....if not they will end up like Citibank one day, foreigners start buying them over.

[acc]

Well there are plenty of americans who will buy "american"... So no matter what, tv will be guaranteed a certain level of business. But ya, their scopes are like getting obsolete and over-priced.

[VinSnr]

Well there are plenty of americans who will buy "american"... So no matter what, tv will be guaranteed a certain level of business. But ya, their scopes are like getting obsolete and over-priced.

Well, I don't think this generation of Americans is going to last very long, considering the kind of issue US economy is facing now. TV and AP is just lucky that the baby boomers generation who has some money to spare will naturally select refractors because they are more friendly for old-age rather than a big dob. Mag 1 has already close down and if the new company doesn't innovate or bring down prices, they too will face extinction one day.

Obsession on the other hand was smart to start marketing ultra-lights to cater for the baby boomers and move away from direct competition with all the light bridges which is selling 3X cheaper.

[MooEy]

ever since the arrival of the orion 80ed. most of the ang moh apo makers can go home sleep le. i'm still quite amazed by how much the tv/sv scopes cost. china have improved alot, so if the ang mohs are still going to live in their dream that they are better, i think they can prepare to close down.

even the japanese have woke up, vixen had big slash on their prices. tak discontinued the older line of fs and made toa/tsa line. even the older fsq is being revamped. prices are quite reasonable considering the improvements.

i guess the china side have learnt new marketing tricks. now wo advertise their scopes as individually star tested. the celestron line have the word hand figured optics. i bought china, and i'm still very happy with it.

~MooEy~

[Canopus Lim]

Ya the TV85 and its siblings are like getting obsolete... E.g. in the past people go ga-ga over the buttery smooth rack-n-pinion focusers on TV scopes but now, dual-speed focusers on scopes costing much much less perform better.

TV scopes need to move with times. Either they bring up their mechanical (better focuser, nicer design, better features, etc) or they lower their prices. Look at their NP-127is which sells for like $6985! And only a 2.4" focuser. What the heck....could have use much less money to buy a TEC 140 with a Feathertouch 4" focuser ($5000)!

They better wake up from their American dream,....if not they will end up like Citibank one day, foreigners start buying them over.

I am not saying TV telescopes are cheap... I cannot afford any.. but the NP127 is a FLAT FIELD scope that has 4 ELEMENTS... obviously it costs more than the TEC140. That scope is better corrected (that means smaller more pin point stars ACROSS THE FIELD) than the TEC140.

For the 10% discount, use it to buy their accessories and eyepieces. Due to that discount, I am getting the TV 2X barlow; not too much more expensive than less good barlows out there. It has been a long decision on whether to get a high power eyepiece (4mm focal length and less) but I guess there is not much chance of superb seeing to warrant the cost of an expensive high power eyepiece.

[VinSnr]

I am not saying TV telescopes are cheap... I cannot afford any.. but the NP127 is a FLAT FIELD scope that has 4 ELEMENTS... obviously it costs more than the TEC140. That scope is better corrected (that means smaller more pin point stars ACROSS THE FIELD) than the TEC140.

Bro..I have seen through both scopes before while I was in Houston, Texas. I spent a lot of time on both. I know what I am talking about. Regardless what TV claims that 127 is to be, it has ZERO significance at the eyepiece. The TEC was brighter, as sharp, resolve more and the focuser was a beauty. Period. It doesn't matter how many elements that TV has or theoretically how good it is. It just could not justify the extra $2000 over the TEC no matter how you cut it. I have been in this hobby for 22 years now and I have seen enough scopes to tell the difference.

[VinSnr]

ever since the arrival of the orion 80ed. most of the ang moh apo makers can go home sleep le. i'm still quite amazed by how much the tv/sv scopes cost. china have improved alot, so if the ang mohs are still going to live in their dream that they are better, i think they can prepare to close down.

even the japanese have woke up, vixen had big slash on their prices. tak discontinued the older line of fs and made toa/tsa line. even the older fsq is being revamped. prices are quite reasonable considering the improvements.

i guess the china side have learnt new marketing tricks. now wo advertise their scopes as individually star tested. the celestron line have the word hand figured optics. i bought china, and i'm still very happy with it.

~MooEy~

This is why I do respect Stellarvue in some ways. They did not stand by their American ego. They offer lower range too like the 80ED or the 102ED (at competitve prices with the Chinese) just to retain presence among the budget scopes while at the same time, also target the higher range ones. This should be the way to go if you want to survive as a American company thesedays.

If not, it will be like Activision (kena bought by French) or Citibank (need Arabs to rescue them)