The Andromeda Observatory at The Galaxy

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@Sam - I will try to RT GCC update tweets every Friday like I did last night. Do reveal GCC's Venus Transit plans soon. 3 more weeks left!

@Airconvent - One more reason for you to get on the twitter bandwagon hor? 1-day advance warning very tough la beacause the sky so unpredictable. :)

@Rlow & Siti - Great job sharing the views of your yellow submarine to the public! Really miss the sharp views of Jupiter I saw through it at James's place during his ISTAR First Light Party! Super comfortable eye-relief from your premium EPs too with my glasses on.

@Cataclysm - Great photos as usual! Can sell to GCC. LOL. :P The camera angle makes the Tak so small and portable!
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It was yet another fruitful session at the Andromeda. Loved those wide-eyed shots that Kelvin took, colours were very nice too. The second shot in particular could do as a publicity entity for future sessions. Incidentally, managed to get quite a few people down last night, with the help of smses and fb. The guy in the photo, Chee Leong, is also an enthusiastic amateur astronomer (all the way from Malaysia!), and fellow ex-colleague. He should be a potential regular to the sessions soon. Glad to see Ko Ko and family down as well, and managed to entice Kelvin over. Almost thought the weather wasn't going to cooperate but after some haze, the night eventually cleared quite a fair bit later. As usual, the bright planets were popular targets, followed by the southern clusters.

More importantly, after attending and helping out in these few sessions, thought it will be good to share some improvements/ideas on the sessions/observatory for the committee/volunteers:

1) With the 22E having a taller pier, committee might consider getting a longer (and stable) ladder, at least two more steps higher than the existing one. If the other "rubber" ladder is not used (not stable), it should not be occupying unnecessary space in the platform as it could accommodate more observers.

2) With the objective of spreading astronomy to the public, it is not really advisable to adopt the current practice of not allowing kids to peer through just because the ladder is not tall enough. Can see the parents are being disappointed in the process. Seriously, just get a taller one. Nothing beats seeing those little curious eyes peering into the eyepiece, and reacting in amazement/awe what they are seeing then. Also with the SKY90 in place, having this taller ladder can invite more frequent views through it as well.

3) Accessory management: Committee should look into getting a those rubberized mini mats (Daiso, etc) and place it on top of the accessory/dry cabinet, where one can put the eyepieces/barlows stably. I believe right now, we are using the mewlon300 cover as a means instead! lol.

4) SKY6 software should have the horizons and daytime settings activated, so that one can see the limits of the horizon, and the daytime effect. As the computer node is placed close to where the observers are looking, many often will look at the node and marvel at the planetarium software, but it also takes a few bit of explanation to get them to understand what they are looking. With more realistic rendering modes activated, it will help very much more in getting them to understand the orientation, etc.

5) Brought this up before, but really if the observatory has further budget, invest in better quality low power eyepieces instead of the default ones now. If there is a 6mm Ethos there, don't see why the money cannot be put into investing in good quality low power eyepieces, instead of having a dazzling array of accompanying adapters/accessories that will not be used as often as low power viewing sessions.

6) Minor point: It will be helpful to have some simple directional signs to show people the way up (or method of queuing) to the point where the telescope is.

7) Is there plans to get some form of a telescope cover to cover the entire OTA system? Might be useful since the interior can get dusty with time.

8) Mewlon 300 cool down issue: It is noted that the M300 is infamous for a very long cool down period. Add this to the fact that the aircon is installed and on during sessions, and the rear cell is never removed, even with good seeing, the M300 is going to be plagued with local turbulence effects all the time. Last night was noticeably better than the previous sessions (possibly due to better seeing). Not sure how to really solve this, but we need to look into this further somehow. No point having such a good scope, when it is never optimized for public viewing.

9) Poster placed to notify public of membership options. Currently, I believe (from Sam) that the membership per year (for unlimited viewing sessions) is $12 for non-Passion-card folks, and $10 for Passion-card holders. Otherwise one-time fee of $1 is implemented for the public. Might be good to make clear of this with some poster notice pasted just outside the observatory. Even though the costs are not really exhorbitant, can see some of the public were caught by surprise when asked to pay through word of mouth only after they have been queuing for a view for sometime! lol

Nevertheless, the Andromeda Observatory initiative is a very good one. One reason being the penetration of astronomy right into the the heartlands. One can never know that such an observatory can exist there too. Wished there's such a place in the east as well. The schools do have observatories, but the administrative red-tape is usually making them restrictive to just the students and seldom the public. The Science Center Observatory no doubt still have regular sessions, but until things are done to spruce up (clean up) the telescope optics, the views through the M300 at AO is usually more rewarding. And with the new MRT lines in place, getting to Admiralty MRT is also made more accessible for eastern folks like us.

Zillion Cheers to JP, Sam, and rest for their work done to make this Observatory happen! Gonna try bringing family next!
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Re: The Andromeda Observatory at The Galaxy

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Remus brought up many good points. Kids should not be prohibited in the observatory; in fact these young children should be encouraged and given priority to look through the big scope in the observatory, IMHO. At my first visit last week, i noted that kids had the opportunity to look through the Mewlon 300 so Last night's restriction is a new policy. Last week i had also highlighted the lack of a good low-power widefield eyepiece. But given more time, i am sure many things can be improved there.

Kelvin, those two photos are lovely! It was nice having Kelvin and Koko who enjoyed the views through the yellow sub and also appreciated the quality of the optics involved. Last night the seeing was very good; and the public had a good look at Saturn sharp at 346x magnification.

Once again, thanks to Jinpeng and the rest for the event last night.
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I made my first trip to the Andromeda Observatory on Friday night.

I took the train there after work, getting off at Admiralty MRT station. I had much difficulty finding the place because the Galaxy Astronomy Club's webpage regarding their weekly sessions did not state any address other than to say that the observatory is at level 6 of the Galaxy CC (Community Club), and the embedded map shows the former location of the CC, i.e. at Blk 649 Woodlands Ring Road, with the former name of Admiralty CC. Further, the display on my mobile phone did not show any other marking for the correct place (which I've just discovered, does shows up on my PC screen). So off I went to Blk 649 and it took me over 20 mins from there to find the correct place.

So, for everyone's benefit, the Andromeda Observatory as at the Level 6 rooftop of Galaxy CC (Community Club), in the glittering new building at 31 Woodlands Avenue 6, which is at the junction of Woodlands Avenue 6 and Woodlands Drive 63. From Admiralty MRT station, walk south down Woodlands Avenue 6 for about 200 metres until just before Woodlands Drive 63.

Here is a map from Onemap.sg to which I've marked the location:
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(Note: Onemap.sg is run by the Singapore Land Authority and it's stated on the website that they permit the use of their maps in flyers, etc. Their FAQ No. 12 states:
"12. Can we use the maps in our emails, e-flyers to indicate the location of our events?
Yes, please make sure that the copyright statement is stated in your emails/collaterals.")

BTW, the maps on Onemap.sg (at http://www.onemap.sg/index.html ) are much more detailed and up-to-date than on Google Maps. For example, Google Maps still shows the CC at its former location, and I've seen many other cases of out-of-date information on Google Maps.


As for the observatory itself...

I must say that it is very impressive, considering it is funded by a public community club (fka "community centre"). The Takahashi Mewlon 300mm (12 inch) Dall-Kirkham telescope is mounted on a Showa German equatorial mount and driven by The Sky6 planetarium software. The scope is mounted in a strikingly professional-looking dome (air-conditioned too!), complete with a slit opening that moves about in coordination with the scope. Kudos to the folks at Galaxy Astronomy Club to have got the observatory built! It's a great accomplishment.

When I arrived (after my detour), there was a line of about 15-20 people in the queue, with around another 20 mingling about in the rooftop courtyard. They were mostly primary/secondary/poly students, with some families and their small kids. The small kids did manage to view through the eyepiece. The 4-step ladder was adequate for most, and the smaller ones had to be hand-carried up.

When I got to the eyepiece, I discovered that the view of Saturn was quite literally marred. The eye lens of the Nagler eyepiece had oily stains on it, most likely from eyelashes pressed near the eyepiece due to the short eye-relief. I requested that the eyepiece be cleaned to remove the oil stains, but was told that the cleaning is only done in the daytime. Further, before 8.30pm, the image was quite fuzzy due to air-currents. I've read that with the Mewlon 300, the rear plate and the side plates next to the mirror can be removed to facilitate cooling. However, the scope's plates were not removed.

So, my suggestions for the club are:

(a) To clean the eyepieces during viewing sessions whenever they get stained, with simple cleaning fluid, as often as need be. I think it is far better that budget to mid-priced eyepieces are used that are cleaned often during sessions and give clear views, than premium eyepieces that are not cleaned during sessions resulting (sometimes) in fuzzy images.

(b) To study how to minimize thermal in-equilibrium. If it is in the scope itself, to consider removing the rear and side plates before and during viewing sessions until the scope has cooled down. If it is due to the difference in air temperature between the air-conditoned dome and the outside, then perhaps some way to encourage cross-ventilation during sessions (I'm no expert on this, though).

Later on, I also viewed Omega Centauri, this time through a clean Radian. The view was excellent, with pin-point individual stars visible. That was a good taste of the Mewlon's potential!

All-in-all, it was definitely worth the trip. Many thanks to the club volunteers for the evening.

It's a pity that the observatory must close before 10pm, which is when the community club (centre) closes for the night. It is a bit of a waste for such a premium scope to be available for use for only 2 to 2.5 hrs a night, especially considering how cloudy it often is in Singapore. However, I was told that Galaxy astro club is trying to organise some special overnight sessions.
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@starfinder - Nice report! Thanks for revealing the exact location of the observatory on a map.

This should be the Google Street Map view of GCC:
http://maps.google.com.sg/maps?q=admira ... ,,0,-12.73

Would love to attend the overnight sessions. :)
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Meticulous and detailed as always Gavin. Thanks for your report.
I wonder how any obs can be complete without the mandatory monster bino when Gavin is present ? :)
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