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streats July8

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Hi guys,
just thought tis might be interesting thing to share. On today's streats there is an article on amateur astronomy in Singapore. :wink: :lol: Hmm... looks like stargazing in Singapore is really taking off. I think it will raise the awareness in Singapore too. Also, something for the newbies, the column on the same page answers many of those basic question on stars n scopes, thus good to read. But I strongly do not agree with wat they said tat any scope under a thousand dollar is not worth it. :idea: :roll:
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fizzy123 wrote:Hi guys,
just thought tis might be interesting thing to share. On today's streats there is an article on amateur astronomy in Singapore. :wink: :lol: Hmm... looks like stargazing in Singapore is really taking off. I think it will raise the awareness in Singapore too. Also, something for the newbies, the column on the same page answers many of those basic questionon stars n scopes, thus good to read. But I strongly do not agree with wat they said tat any scope under a thousand dollar is not worth it. :idea: :roll:
maybe i go hunt for that paper and reply to the editor on some of the wrong stuff they said.

Thanks for letting us know
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I have read the paper....and I was really upset. Two things

1) It says newbies should go Tasos observing sessions to check out which scope they like. I hope these newbies won't ask the price....because if they do I think they will run home faster than a cheetah.

2) Dr. Cheong said scope under $1000 are almost useless. well i think that's true if he is saying it based on Astro-scientific prices. We all know that anything below 1000 in Astro scientific is truly junk because even a small scope would have cost more than that over there.

Ok..on a more serious note....point (1) is understandable. They want to promote Tasos. Nothing wrong about that. But point (2) is ridiculous. If I am a newbie and you tell me I need to spend more than 1K to get something decent, I tink I will never go into this hobby. And we all know that we can certainly get something decent with less than 1K.

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VinSnr wrote:I have read the paper....and I was really upset. Two things


:x :x
Hi Vin,

I think we should write to the editor and introduce Singastro to them. Among the whole lot of us, we have more scopes, binocs and esoteric stuff then astroscientific e.g. Taks, Intes Mak Newts, truss dobs like the portaball and teleport, ATM projects, Meade stuff, economical and expensive eyepieces and even a ronchi eyepiece. :D

Our Singastro dealers also offer a wide range of scopes like achros, semi-apos, apos, newts/dobs, Schmidt-Newts, Mak-newts, etc which offer better value than AS.

The Remus and the other moderators can get together and issue a letter collectively.

Rgds,

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I could understand why they said $1k is useless. I remember seeing those alt-azi mount novice 60mm scope they sell by celestron, they sell it for 500! Partly because celestron is a veri established brand.

I think 2 truely promote stargazing n Singapore:

1) setup stargazing events at primary n secondary school. Let them have a first hand view of those celestial objects. Especially primary school children, they are young, creative, imaginative and are eager to learn. They will thrilled to see things like saturn n jupiter they learn in textbooks.

2) Singastro members can collective write a book on urban stargazing, or produce a simple magazine on astronomy targeting the young ppls, tis can increase the awareness of astronomy in Singapore. :wink: 8) :idea: :roll:
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I think what you can do is to come together and put together a guide something like .... Stargazing in Singapore under $500. The main ideas are:

Astronomy isn't a rich man's hobby. Come up with some options ranging from those even a secondary school kid and aspire to and save up for. Samuel and some of the other vendors can come together and offer student packages or basic packages. Even if in the short term you only manage to cover cost, many of these people will want to upgrade....

Astronomy isn't just for people in dark rural areas. The main obstacle I had for the longest time was that I felt it was useless observing under Singapore's light polluted sky. Show people what some of the really great things you can see with a reasobably priced scope under Singapore skies.

Astronmy isn't just for people who are tech crazy about star maps, obscure signs, symbols etc. The un-initiated can get quite scared off by astro-speak. If we can show that you don't have to understand what we mean by m22, m45, ngc3422, ra dec, alt az, gem, to enjoy the wonders in the sky, more people will become interested.

I'm thinking something along the lines of The backyard astronmer's guide. Simple, easy to read, customized to the Singaporean sky and the singaporean budget. I think for the cost of a one or two of our scopes, we could actually do a small publishing run. Put it in bookshops, libararies, schools. I personally don'y mind putting some money into this... if we all donated the cost of a brand new Vixen LV or a UO ortho, we have quite a reasonable sum pretty quick.

But in the meantime, someone who actually knows some stuff please write into streats and correct some of these misconceptions that may drive off a generation of amateur astronmers....
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fizzy123 wrote: I think 2 truely promote stargazing n Singapore:

1) setup stargazing events at primary n secondary school. Let them have a first hand view of those celestial objects. Especially primary school children, they are young, creative, imaginative and are eager to learn. They will thrilled to see things like saturn n jupiter they learn in textbooks.

2) Singastro members can collective write a book on urban stargazing, or produce a simple magazine on astronomy targeting the young ppls, tis can increase the awareness of astronomy in Singapore. :wink: 8) :idea: :roll:
1) The main problem with setting up stargazing events at primary schools really getting the students themselves to come down. Because they are young, their parents would likely not agree to such a stargazing event, a big problem. Also, getting the school admin to agree is also another matter.
As for the secondary schools, most of them are result-oriented. If an activity does not benefit the students much, or it does not allow them to win a competition, the students are not allowed to enter.

2) I think this was mentioned some time before, but I dunno what happened after the idea was mentioned.. Did it actually start?

I think it's nice the newspapers have started to talk about astronomy.. it's definitely a trend of increasing awareness for astronomy. But I don't know how much it will actually affect the readers, because the "sci-fi" image of astronomy is still deeply etched in many, and they regard it as something remote and not possible in Singapore. My take on promoting astronomy: just keeep holding public events. Non-stop, all year round. Eventually SOMEONE has to notice us, right? :lol:
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The article clearly shows the ignorance of the editors. Moral of the story ' Always double check the piece of information even though it is from a "professional" '. haha.


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wenyi
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VinSnr wrote:
maybe i go hunt for that paper and reply to the editor on some of the wrong stuff they said.
Thanks for letting us know
yes yes...should do that if the article is misleading...
what a way to kill off an interesting hobby by saying any scope less than $1000 is trash...

well *thank you*, I'm not throwing my 90mmMak and 80mm APO "trash" away! :shock:

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I have always been for the idea of Singastro taking a more active role in promoting astronomy in Singapore. The easiest way I feel is simply to put our collective knowledge on the web. Rather than print a book, can we build a Singastro website that guides newcomers into astronomy?

For example, all the information about CSN and Dempsey Road is spread out over the place. Won't it be great that all that information plus more is set up as a Singastro website, for Singapore's astronomers by Singapore's astronomers?

Do please consider setting up Singastro as a web resource as well rather than just an informal forum.

Sincerely,
Chris

p.s. I'm definitely for writing something in to Streats. Promote Singastro. Maybe we can contribute our own article?
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