Is this a joke?

[MooEy]

Hi,
For me, I would say that US$1.2K for a TAK FS78 is too expensive... with that price, I can get a C9.25... larger light gathering power and higher resolution.

Have a nice day.

wrong to think that way. a complete fs78 rig consisting of the fs78, tak 6x30 finder, tak diagonal, 2 simple plossl and 410+055 mount would only cost sgd$3k.

a complete rig for the c9.25 + gp-dx/gm8 + all other accessory would cost prolly sgd$5k-6k.

~MooEy~

[VinSnr]

i wouldn't really compare the OA newt to a high end apo. a high end apo have too many advantages over the OA newt. portablity, wide field, fast focal ratio for photography, etc etc.

Yes..but remember, at twice the price too.

when one buys an apo, most of the money goes to the expensive flourite/ed glass. i do not see where the money goes when u get a newt.

~MooEy~

The money goes into the image. I can tell you this. If there are two unobstructed system, I will choose the one with a good mirror anytime with half the price.

[anat]

Is it difficult to grind a plain glass into an OA glass directly? IMO, if they come up with an appropriate setup for mirror grinding, it may be possible to get an OA mirror with a smaller focal ratio.

Anat

[ariefm71]

wrong to think that way. a complete fs78 rig consisting of the fs78, tak 6x30 finder, tak diagonal, 2 simple plossl and 410+055 mount would only cost sgd$3k.

a complete rig for the c9.25 + gp-dx/gm8 + all other accessory would cost prolly sgd$5k-6k.

we have fs78 on 410+055 in our tp ob sessions, it's an unstable setup in my personal opinion. besides, if we're talking about visual only, you can get a c9.25 with giro dx mount on heavy duty wooden tripod that will cost you less than sgd3.5k

[VinSnr]

Hi,
For me, I would say that US$1.2K for a TAK FS78 is too expensive... with that price, I can get a C9.25... larger light gathering power and higher resolution.

Have a nice day.

wrong to think that way. a complete fs78 rig consisting of the fs78, tak 6x30 finder, tak diagonal, 2 simple plossl and 410+055 mount would only cost sgd$3k.

a complete rig for the c9.25 + gp-dx/gm8 + all other accessory would cost prolly sgd$5k-6k.

~MooEy~

why get a tak78 for USD1200 when a Orion 80ED is only one third of that price?

Ok..ok...some people like Tak name.....but unless you buy it to collect and keep forever, I dun see the logic of paying that kind of money when the 80ED serves just as good.

[weixing]

Hi,
May be a lot of people will say it is a great buy if the 3.6" OA newtonian is brand as a TAK even if the price is double... It's BRAND POWER!!!

Have a nice day.

[MooEy]

Hi,
For me, I would say that US$1.2K for a TAK FS78 is too expensive... with that price, I can get a C9.25... larger light gathering power and higher resolution.

Have a nice day.

wrong to think that way. a complete fs78 rig consisting of the fs78, tak 6x30 finder, tak diagonal, 2 simple plossl and 410+055 mount would only cost sgd$3k.

a complete rig for the c9.25 + gp-dx/gm8 + all other accessory would cost prolly sgd$5k-6k.

~MooEy~

why get a tak78 for USD1200 when a Orion 80ED is only one third of that price?

Ok..ok...some people like Tak name.....but unless you buy it to collect and keep forever, I dun see the logic of paying that kind of money when the 80ED serves just as good.

hmm..weixing compared the tak to the c9.25, i didn't choose anything here. i have to admit, the orion 80ed is very gd value for a 3" apo.

~MooEy~

[MooEy]

Hi,
May be a lot of people will say it is a great buy if the 3.6" OA newtonian is brand as a TAK even if the price is double... It's BRAND POWER!!!

Have a nice day.

cannot blame the brand la. taks are indeed very well made stuff, they don't get their reputation overnight. it's the years and years of consistently gd quality stuff they produce that command the high price.

i wouldn't just buy anything based on the brand alone. many other factors comes in. for me i would have to justify the price against the performance. some of the taks, i feel are gd value for the money.

for example, the tak fs102. it might seem expensive for a 4", but compared to other 4" apos, it's one of the cheapest with gd optics and extremely gd mechanics. the mewlons are also inside my list of gd value scopes, slighty more than a sct, cheaper than a mct, they deliver very gd performance.

but i would not say all taks are worth the money, the bigger apos like the fct150 are definately out. there are alot other stuff that give maybe 90% of the performance at maybe 10% of the price.

i have to admit, i have a soft spot for jap made stuff. between a jap and a US made stuff, often i would pick the jap stuff even if price is slighty higher. the japs attention to details and their constant improvement is second to none.

given the scenario that tak ever makes a similar OA newt that is 3.6", i wouldn't complain about the price, provided it's tak quality. wat i would continue to look out for is the buttery smooth focuser, the oversize and nicely made tube(lime green with the smooth white paint), the ultra smooth mirrors with their coatings, the nice compression ring adapters, etc etc.

~MooEy~

[kingkong]

why get a tak78 for USD1200 when a Orion 80ED is only one third of that price?

orion 80ed is bigger than it should be when the scope should be targeting people looking for a portable scope.
how much more will it cost to do customised run for 80mm tubes when the cost is mainly on the optics? i don't get it.
is the usd500 barrier that important?
as a result of orion size, i'm looking at the wo ed at usd800.
but of course i didn't do the market positioning researh that orion probably did. there may be good reasons. i just don't see them.

[MooEy]

take the borg 76ed/77ed if u wan a true apo. it's lighter and smaller. the helical focuser is rotatable and doesn't slide even u pull it hard.

~MooEy~