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weixing wrote:Hi,
May be they will come out with COG (Certificate of Gambling) and happily say "let the market force decide who can gamble... "... ha ha ha
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Anyway, will the casino improve our tourism?? May be they'll attract some, but I don't think it'll help much... Because they are just too many outstanding casino out there in the world, so what is so special about our casino???

By the way, now I understand why so many Artist need to perform all those dangerous tricks in NKF show... so that they can form a new subsidiary company to perform in the Casino!!! Ha Ha Ha...
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they are not building a casino. they are building an entertaining centre WITH a casino much like Genting highlands. hence people who come here not only includes gamblers but families too. that means they may stay longer to see the rest of singapore..more tourist spending.
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weixing wrote:Hi,

Anyway, will the casino improve our tourism?? May be they'll attract some, but I don't think it'll help much... Because they are just too many outstanding casino out there in the world, so what is so special about our casino???

Have a nice day.
There are millions of pple right at our doorstep. Its too expensive for them to fly to Vegas for their gambling fix. With the amount of money investors are willing to pump into a casino here, there is no doubt it can be an outstanding one that will become a major attraction. The world is a brutal place. Economic competition is intense. Even here in the US, many are quivering with fear with the economic competition posed by China. On cloudynights.com, you can read the debate generated by Synta's purchase of Celestron but I digressed.

Its time to get pragmatic. Build the casino and rake in the foreign exchange. Help our ourselves remain employed and fed. Enjoy the resort facitilies. And have safeguards in place to protect our own population from falling into the gambling trap.

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some people compare gambling 4d and toto with casino
i think that's not a fair comparison
the thrills involved in a casino are very much greater than 4d and toto...so i would tihnk that just because singaporeans can cope with toto and 4d doesn't mean they can cope with a casino.
and also, i wouldn't think there're no gambling addiction problems in genting...its just that the news wouldn't report such domestic problems to singapore

just my opinion!...no offense meant to anyone
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Hi,
they are not building a casino. they are building an entertaining centre WITH a casino much like Genting highlands. hence people who come here not only includes gamblers but families too. that means they may stay longer to see the rest of singapore..more tourist spending.
The thing is why must an entertaining centre need to have a casino?? I don't see disneyland got a casino inside.
There are millions of pple right at our doorstep. Its too expensive for them to fly to Vegas for their gambling fix.
I mean why tourist would want to choose to come to Singapore's casino where there are a lots of great casino in their own country or near their country??
Its time to get pragmatic. Build the casino and rake in the foreign exchange.
May be they'll earn more foreign exchange if the government themself start building casino in other country... hee hee hee :)
And have safeguards in place to protect our own population from falling into the gambling trap.
You can plan everything, but the human factor is the one that is most difficult to predict... you won't know what will be happen.... remember in the past when the government encourage singaporean to give birth to only two?? What's the result?? Too good that the birth rate now is so low that they have to encourage singaporean to give birth... hee hee :)

Anyway, I'm not against building a casino... just hope that the government know what are they doing... Good Luck to all of us and Happy Astronomy Day
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Our hinterland is too small and 'poor' to support the huge operating costs of a theme park without the side income from a casino. If you look at the successful, stand-alone theme parks around the world, they are invariably in large, densely populated developed countries.

There's no big, resort-style casino in this region (ie Asia). Melbourne's Crowne Casino is not up to the mark. Forget Genting. These are pure gambling dens :)

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I am personally against the idea due to political, economical and social basis. First, the govt and the entertainment industrialists claims tat the new integrated resort can generate revenues for the republic, at the same time adding more 'punch' to the tourism scene. I'm skeptic abt tis.

1) It is already known tat many other Asean nations are also giving the green light to building a casino. These less economically advanced nations hope to use the casino to boost their tourism sector. Thus with so many other countries jumping on the "integrated resort" band wagon, would our nation's integrated resort outshine others? Would our idea be considered new and creative? :idea:

2) The building of the integrated resort with the casino might cause "canibalistic' effects on the conventional tourism. Singapore is very small compared to Las Vegas. No matter where u position the resort, it is going to cause a heavy effect on the surrounding existing tourism related industries. It is just like the 'bubble tea' phenomena. When someone brought in the idea from Taiwan, it is considered to be very profitable due to the great appeals to the younger masses, but when too many people open bubble tea shops, the market value per cup plunged rapid. From $3 to now merely $1 per cup. Some shopkeepers I once spoke to say tat they regretted foolishly following the crowd and now they cannot back out. Our govt is planning to comission some foreign companies to build and run the resort together with some ammenities within it. Thus with the resort so near to the city area, would the resort and other local conventional tourism industries end up playing opposing camps and start "consuming" each other's staple stream of tourists? :shock:

3) Considering Macau is very near PRC, how is the govt going to be confident tat they are going to get a fat share of the PRC gambling tourist? Considering going Macau is just as convenient as us going to Malaysia. Lets also not forget Macau has many various gambling center and considering our govt is going to setup various parameters to control the amount being gambled. Some claim tat the new resort can create new jobs, but has our govt set up an institution to ensure our locals get the jobs? :!: :?:

4)On social issues tis is my personal experience. The govt claims tat only 2% might get addicted, personally I think the number is bigger. In my NSF rifle company I served in, there is a quite handful of the guys tat regularly patronize the shops tat sell Toto, 4D,SCORE.These folks spend per month nearly a hundred dollars on these bets eventhough our allowances is ownly $500.Wat shock me most is, instead of scouting for jobs and preparing for life after ORD, many of them actually pin their hope on these fruitless gambling gimmicks and hope to make it big. Some even lament on the stories they read on Chinese tabloids, regarding blue collared workers striking rich easily based on some numbers they dreamt on. There is even this platoon mate of mine tat own others $4000 during EURO2004 period. Instead of finding ways to clear the debts, he borrowed more money to gamble and hope he can win to cover up the debts. This show tat our ppls are yet to be mature enough to deal with the lure of gambling. Setting up the resort would be like opening up a "Pandoras Box", bring in more and more social and ethics problems in Singapore. :? :( :cry: :idea: :shock:
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haha
yeah fizzy...gambling is a major problem
for NSF....its DEINIFITELY SOCCER BETS!
so seriously, government's survey... 牛dung :wink:
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Hi,
By the way, I think another side effect of the Casino is that it provide a easier way to "wash black money" and bribery.
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how is black money and bribery related to a casino?
sorry but i cannot see link
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Hi,
If I have a sum of illegal money, i just go to casino and "convert" to legal money...

The money that you win are yours and the money that you lost are mine....

This way, all the money came from a legal source and will be very difficult to catch them this way... :(

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